Is nice to see that we have users from all around the world, even if nearly 50% are from English speaking countries. Image 1.
How old are you?
The average age of a /OnePiece user is 23.62 years old. We have roughtly 10% of users that are underaged, and 10% that are 30 years old or more. Image 2.
Gender
Gender
Male
Female
Other
Percentage
88.6%
8.9%
2.5%
There is no surprise there. For the others, we have some Gender Fluids, transgenders, Bigenders, quite a lot of Non-binary, a Loli, a Furry, and nearly a 100 Oden (You wish), as well as some rude people, but I won't put up what they said.
Manga or Anime?
Both
Manga Only
Anime Only
49.8%
46.2%
4%
No real surprise here either. Considering the subreddit has a lot of spoilers and is focussed around the chapter release, it's obvious there are only a few Anime Only people here. So thank you for Sticking Around, even if it the best place to avoid spoilers.
For approximately how long have you been following One Piece?
1 Year or less
2 years
3 years
4 years
5 years
6 years
7 years
8 years
9 years
10 years or more
8.7%
6.2%
6.8%
6.1%
8.1%
7.1%
6.7%
7.1%
4.6%
38.5%
Nearly 40% of our users have followed the series for 10 years or more. (To give an idea, this mean they followed the series since Before the timeskip, as chapter 597 was released at the end of August 2010). For the rest, we have roughly the same number of new readers that stays with the series. So it's quite good to bring new blood and not have a decrease of new readers.
Where does One Piece rank on your list of favorite manga?
N°1
Top 3
Top 5
Top 10
Bellow Top 10
70.1%
21.6%
5%
2.6%
0.6%
Well, you are in /OnePiece after all. So it's kinda obvious the manga is either your favorite or in your top 3. If it isn't your number 1, what series are better than One Piece for you?
Do you own One Piece Merchandise?
No
Manga Volumes
Figurines
Clothes
Poster
DVD/Blu-ray
44.2%
33.1%
24.5%
18.4%
17.2%
6.3%
Those are some good numbers I would say, 55.8% of users have some merchandise and are probably supporting the series (depending on where you bought those) For the OTHERS answers given, some good ones are : autograph from dub VA of brook, Alvida pre devilfruit bodypillow, Chopper teddy bear, Sountracks, Custom made and 3D printed Keychain, Databook.
Subreddit Section :
Do you visit OnePiece mostly on mobile or on desktop?
Mobile or Apps
Both
Desktop
50.6%
29.5%
19.9%
If you are using desktop, are you using the old version of reddit? Or the redesign?
Redesign
Old version
63.3%
36.7%
It seems like most users are using Mobile and Apps, as well as the redesign on desktop, so it's probably time to pay more attention to that than to the old version, this way we can get banners/flair for users that are on the new version of reddit.
How often do you make : a submission on OnePiece?/Comment?/read the rules?
Submission :
Never
Rarely
Sometimes
Often
Very often (Daily)
67.1%
24.7%
5.6%
1.6%
1%
Comments :
Never
Rarely
Sometimes
Often
Very often (Daily)
41.2%
32.7%
17.6%
6.7%
1.8%
Check the rules :
Never
Rarely
Sometimes
Often
Very often (Daily)
49.1%
17.1%
13.7%
8%
12%
This really shows that there are a lot of lurkers on the subreddit. Most of you won't ever post or comment on the subreddit. With 8% of users creating submission and 25% commenting. As for the rules, there isn't any surprise since nearly every post respect the rules. (Only 1/5 of the post needs to be removed), so thank you to all of those that read them.
Content you enjoy the MOST/the LEAST.
Content you enjoy the most :
Theories/Discussion
Fanart
Polls
Cosplay
Merchandise
Youtube Video
Media (Photo and Video)
89.6%
47.9%
19.7%
16.7%
14.4%
14.1%
11.7%
So without surprise, people in this subreddit enjoy the Theories/discussions the most out of every type of post, it's then followed by the Fanarts. Which is good since like 75% of posts made are Discussion (50% total)/Fanarts (25% total). Content you enjoy the least:
Youtuber Video
Merchandise
Cosplay
Media
Fanart
Polls
Theories/Discussion
36.7%
35.1%
31%
15.7%
15.3%
6.9%
4.2%
Here there aren't any content that most users enjoy the least, but it still seems like users don't want to see that much Merchandise or Cosplay post. (Youtuber video are very rare) Also, a quick reminder, Discussion/Theories are mostly found by sorting by New. This is where you will see all of them, as it's hard for them to show up on the front page of the subreddit (but if it shows up on Hot, then it's a very good one).
Do you only use the subreddit for the Spoiler and Chapter Discussion thread?
No
Yes
63.4%
36.6%
It's nice to see that roughly 2/3 of the users are here for more than just the Spoilers and Chapter discussion. But there is still a huge part that only use the subreddit for that.
Do you want the spoilers gone from this subreddit?
Here it's seems that out of 10, the Overall Experience on /OnePiece is 8.35 Image n°3
One Piece related questions :
Who is your favorite Straw Hat?
Luffy
Zoro
Nami
Usopp
Sanji
Chopper
Robin
Franky
Brook
Jinbe
34.8%
29.1%
1.3%
6%
10.1%
1.8%
6.5%
2.4%
5.4%
2.6%
Who is your least favorite Straw Hat?
Luffy
Zoro
Nami
Usopp
Sanji
Chopper
Robin
Franky
Brook
Jinbe
0.8%
3.3%
10.6%
15%
6.5%
21.3%
4%
19.2%
8.3%
11.1%
As it was expected, Luffy is the Favorite Straw Hat for a lot of peopel, he's also the Straw Hat with the fewest "Least Favorite". After him Zoro is second favorite, followed by Sanji, Robin, Usopp, Brook, with the other Straw Hat having very few votes (and Nami having the Least "Favorite" Straw Hat.) After that, it seems like Chopper, Usopp, and Franky are the one people like the least out of the Straw Hat. I know it was a hard question for some of you, but the result are still interesting to know.
Which Strawhat has the saddest backstory?
Robin
Brook
Sanji
Chopper
Nami
Other
50.9%
25%
9.3%
7.1%
5.8%
1.9%
The Straw Hats with the saddest backstory is Robin! Followed by Brook, then Sanji, Chopper and Nami.
What is your favorite Yonko crew?
Red Hair
Whitebeard
Big Mom
Beast
Blackbeard
34.7%
31.1%
14%
10.6%
9.5%
So the favorite Emperor's crew are the Red Hair Pirate! Which is very impressive since we haven't seen much of them. I guess Oda better delivers when it come to see them in action after Wano.
Who is your favorite Admiral?
Garp
Aokiji
Fujitora
Kirazu
Akainu
Sengoku
Green Bull
28.4%
28.2%
20.8%
15.8%
4.7%
1.7%
0.5%
While Garp was only a Vice Admiral, he was put in the poll, and he won it! Whitout him, it's Aokiji that is the favorite, followed by Fujitora. Image 4
Who is your favorite Supernova (outside the Straw Hat)
Law
Kid
Bonney
Urouge
Bege
X Drake
Hawkins
Apoo
Killer
63.5%
12.4%
5.5%
4.5%
4.3%
4%
2.8%
1.7%
1.3%
Who else than the character that nearly managed to defeat Luffy in the 5 popularity poll? Law is the Favorite Supernova outside of the Straw Hat!
Which is your favourite canon arc in One Piece?
The Favorite Canon Story arc are (You could vote for more than 1) :
Position
Story arc
Result
N°1
Enies Lobby
43.3%
N°2
Marineford
39.8%
N°3
Wano
30.2%
N°4
Water 7
23.3%
N°5
Impel Down
19.6%
Which is your least favourite canon arc in One Piece?
The Least Favorite Canon Story arc are (You could vote for more than 1) :
Position
Story arc
Result
N°1
Long Ring Long Land Arc
37.2%
N°2
Fishmen Island
16.9%
N°3
Syrup Village
15.8%
N°4
Thriller Bark
10.1%
N°5
Punk Hazard
9.7%
Favorite Cover Story?
Position
Cover Story
Result
N°1
Enel's Great Space Operations
24%
N°2
From the Decks of the World : "The 500.000.000 Man Arc"
11%
N°3
The Stories of the Self-Proclaimed Straw Hat Grand Fleet
10.7%
N°4
Ace's Great Blackbeard Search
9.8%
N°5
Straw Hat's Separation Seria
9.6%
Character Design in One Piece :
Do you like the female character designs in One Piece?
Yes
No
I have no opinion.
63%
19%
18%
Do you like the male character designs in One Piece?
Yes
No
I have no opinion.
89.6%
0.9%
9.5%
It's true that Oda isn't the best when it comes to Female character design. However it seems like the majority of users don't have a problem with that.
Are fight a determining factor for your enjoyment of the series/arc?
Yes
No
52.6%
47.4%
Now this is rather surprising I must say. What do ou thing about this?
What is/are your (absolute) favourite aspect(s) of One Piece?
From the result we have, it seems like the World-Building is the favorite part of One Piece (With 88.6% of voters choosing this). It's followed by The Adventure (69%), The characterization (54.4%), the Inter-character relationship (49.4%), the Action (36%) and the Art Style (26.2%). And those result are obvious. Some of the most upvoted chapters of this subreddit are when we have huge world building moment, like 907 (Shanks talks to the Elders), or 957 (ULTIMATE).
Post-Timeskip is?
On Par with Pre-TS
Better than Pre-TS
Worse than Pre-TS
59.8%
28.2%
12%
This question is one of the most asked. With a lot of vocal voices saying that post TS is worse than Pre-TS. It's different for sure, but now we know how the community feels about that.
If you could eat a Devil Fruit, what type would you want?
Paramecia
Zoan
Logia
28.9%
8.6%
62.5%
Most people could choose to eat a Logia, and it seems like becoming a Furry is the lesser choice in this subreddit.
The Final Antagonist of One Piece will be :
With 48.5% it's Blackbeard! Really? That is surprising for me since it's obvious that Oda will make the SH fight against the World Government after they find the One Piece. And I honestly don't see Blackbeard being the final Antagonist because of that. So people who voted for this, what was your reasoning for it?
What is One Piece Biggest Flaw?
Some of the biggest flaws mentionned are :
The Pacing
The Lack of characters' death outside of Flashback
The Anime.
Which are all fair flaws to the series.
Random Questions about the Series :
As of Wano, is Jimbei stronger than Zoro?
Yes
No
Yes but Zoro will be stronger soon
9.8%
60.3
29.9%
I guess people really want Zoro to always be the second strongest no matter what... I expected this result, but I was still disappointed...
Was Zoro as strong as Luffy just after the timeskip?
Yes
No
31.5%
68.5%
I... Really? 31.5% said yes?
Will Sanji get laid by the end of the story?
Yes
No
49.6%
50.4%
Nearly the perfect split, and it's easy to see why it's very divisive. (Also shows that every vote counts).
Will Usopp be part of the 1 Billion Club by the end of the story?
Yes
No
76.4%
23.6%
The Straw Hats will go to Laugh Tales :
Before fighting the WG
After Fighting the WG
71.1%
28.9%
It's been hinted at a lot that the SH will go to Laugh Tales before taking on the WG. So for me it feels rather strange to have more than 1/4 voting for them reaching the final island after.
Who will be the one to defeat Kaido? (So give the last hit)
With 66.3% of the votes the one who will give the last hit to Kaido is : Luffy! Followed by 11.5% with someone else (that isn't Law/Kid/Zoro/Big Mom/Scabbard/Admiral) and 11% by one of the Scabbard. Zoro received 6.4% of the votes.
Who will be the first SH to realize their dream?
Luffy
Zoro
Nami
Usopp
Sanji
Chopper
Robin
Franky
Brook
Jinbe
16.2%
12.5%
3.2%
32.7%
7.8%
1.8%
15%
6.8%
2.8%
1.2%
Most users believe that Usopp will be the first one to realize his dream! I also think the same as it's the easiest Dream to realize really. I could bet you it will happen in Elbaf. After that, we have Luffy and Robin, and it make sense since their dreams are linked. Both can be done once they reach Laugh Tales.
How many members will the crew have at the end? (With Luffy)
And most people want 11 members total in the crew! (With 28.6%), 27.5% wants 12 members, wile 19.8% want the crew to be complete right now with Jinbe.
Who do you think wins in a 1v1 : An Emperor or an Admiral?
Yonko
Admiral
92.3%
7.7%
If you are active on the subreddit, you know it's one of the question that creates the most discussion/arguments about. So it's nice to know the overall opinion of the subreddit on this question (Doesn't mean it's always correct mind you).
Is Mihawk emperor's level?
Yes
No
57.7%
42.3%
Also a very divisive question on this subreddit.
Is Aokiji emperor's level?
Yes
No
38.3%
61.7%
Is Akainu emperor's level?
Yes
No
66.2%
33.8%
So they fight for 10 days in a very close battle. With Akainu winning in the end, but after a long and hard fight. And one is Emperor's level while the other isn't? Really? I find that hard to understand.
If Oden was alive would he be stronger than Mihawk
Yes
No
63.7%
36.3%
How strong was Oden at the time of his death?
The strongest
Top 3
Top 5
Top 10
Top 20
< Top 20
1.4%
15.4%
32.5%
37.5%
11.9%
1.4%
I like Oden, but sometimes I feel like people are overestimating him.
Who is stronger between Shanks and Mihawk?
Shanks
Mihawk
85.6%%
14.4%
This is also one of the question creating the most arguments on this subreddit, after all Mihawk is the World Strongest Swordman. But Shanks is an Emperor and became one after losing his arm.
Is Kaido stronger now that 20 years ago?
Yes, he's stronger
Same level
Weaker
64.5%
26.3
9.2%
Had Ace survived, would Wano be liberated by now?
Yes
No
17.9%
82.1%
Could the Marines take on ALL the Yonko at the same time ?
Yes
Yes in Marineford only
No
2 at the same time
3 at the same time
2.4%
3.3%
68.6%
23%
2.7%
This question is also linked to how you see the Emperor vs Admiral. So depending on which side you are on, you are more likely to pick Yes or No.
Which character do you want focus on next?
Rank
Character
%
N°1
Vegapunk
24.7%
N°2
Dragon
18.8%
N°3
Shanks
14.6%
All very good choices, and all of them are character we have known for a long time without really knowing.
Will Blackbeard find the One Piece before Luffy?
Yes
No
18.7%
81.3%
How strong is Monkey D. Dragon?
The strongest
Top 3
Top 5
Top 10
< Top 10
3%
18.8%
31.8%
37.5%
8.9%
Here, most people seems to think that Luffy's father, Garp's son is part of the strongest characters of the series. Oda better respond to our expectations then. As for his Bounty : Well, 31.6% think it will be more than 6 Billions and 28.1% think it will be between 5-6 billions. That remind me, I once made a poll asking people what Sabo's bounty would be (since we knew it was getting revealed in a magazine soon). So maybe I will do the same for Dragon? That could be nice.
Who is currently the strongest Emperor?
Kaido
Shanks
Blackbeard
Big Mom
43.1%
26.4%
26.3%
4.2%
I wonder if the recent chapters made people change their perception on this...
What are the fights you would want to see?
Fight
%
Blackbeard vs Shanks
55.5%
Garp vs Rocks
54.9%
Garp vs Roger
54.8%
Mihawk vs Shanks
52.6%
Akainu vs Aokiji
44.6%
How long do you think One Piece has left? (At a rate of 40 chapters a year)
Image 5. As you can see, most people think One Piece has at least 5 years left to go on. We will know Oda is terrible with respecting his own objectives. And this is good. The more One Piece the better.
On a scale from Spandam to Whitebeard/Roger, How strong is Im?
For this question, it seems like most people put Im at the same level as Whitebeard/Roger with 28.6% voting Im being there. I honestly don't know how strong I want Im to be.
What arcs, after Wano, do you want?
The arcs people want the most are :
Arc
%
Elbaf
79.8%
Laugh Tales
68.6%
Vegapunk
67.5%
The Final War
66.3%
Red Hair Pirates
38.2%
So arcs teased for years (Elbaf/Laugh Tales/Final War) and about character that people want to see (Vegapunk/Red Hair pirates).
How is Blackbeard able to use multiples Devil Fruits?
Reason
%
More than 1 soul
29.5%
Weird Body
29.7%
Yami Yami
35.2%
Other
5.6%
It's one of those question were people have very different opinion about. And right now there isn't really a major concensus in the fandom, even if the theory about it being related to the Yami Yami is more popular. In the Other catergory, there was the Cerberus Devil Fruit option, Blackbeard being a Triplet, him being actually 2+ kids in a trenchcoat, him being a failed Vegapunk experiment, having several stomachs him being pregnant (Stop reading fanfiction), him putting the power inside his rings, being a great guy and him being a cunt.
Haki is :
Image 6 Overall, People like Haki in the series, with a 4.38 out of 5!
How many arcs are left after Wano?
Image 7 Here, it seems like the answer for the community would be 4-5 arcs left. Which would then make (base don the How long One Piece has left), like a year per arc on average.
The final war of One Piece will be :
Reason
%
SH+RA vs WG+Marines vs BB
50.8%
SH+RA vs WG+Marines
37.6%
SH vs RA vs WG
6.8%
Other
4.8%
I just don't see Blackbeard being in the final war, as my opinion is that he will be dealt with before it. For the other answers, there was Straw Hats vs Blackbeard Pirates, Family of D vs vs im sama, Total civil war in marines, Straw Hat vs Shanks, Straw hat vs Pound, Zoro vs World Goverment, Dugongs vs buggy.
Will Luffy die at the end of One Piece?
Will Luffy die?
%
Yes
28%
No
72%
An ending were Luffy died wouldn't be a good ending for me. He needs to survive and go on more adventures.
Are Shakky and Rayleigh Mihawk's parent?
Answer
%
Yes
10.2%
No
89.9%
Will the crew still be together at the end of the series?
Answer
%
Yes, they will keep going on adventure together.| 57.6% o, they will move on, like the Roger Pirates| 42.4% Like with Luffy living, I want the Crew to stay together, and sail together for many more adventures. I could see them taking breaks from time to time, but them staying together would be the best ending for me.
Can the Red Line be destroyed with Ancient Weapons?
Answer
%
Yes
91.9%
No
8.1%
What is the biggest mystery left to be revealed?
The most common answers were : The Void Century, the Will of D, Im, The One Piece, Joy Boy, Luffy's mother and Who is Pandaman?
What is the One Piece?
Here, there was plenty of : "No idea", The friends we made along the way, a Devil Fruit, Knowledge, Uranus, History, a book, my mom.
What sort of Devil Fruit do you want to see in the story?
The most common answer was : Water Logia! Followed by Wind Logia and people wanting more mythical Zoans.
What is the craziest theory you believe?
Here are a few of them :
Shanks is a Celestial Dragon
That Vegapunk is going to flip a switch in the Pacifista programming to fight the marines at the end.
Luffy's mom was a celestial dragon
Devil fruits are all artificial from the void century
That Finland doesn't exist
Zoro is going to get Rodger's disease
D's were the original Celestial Dragons
Weevil was made by Vegapunk using Whitebeard's cells and then was discarded until Bakkin picked him up
One of the Roger Pirates (probably Scopper Gaban) is on Laugh Tale waiting for whoever finds it, sort of like how Crocus and Rayleigh seem to be positioned to monitor rookie pirates
Onigashima is an Oarz like skeleton and Big Mom is gonna bring it to life.
The different races came from other planets/moons
Tama is a Kurozomi
Ussop is a descendant of Mont Blanc Nolan
Luffy hatched from an egg.
The fish that bit Shanks's arm off was Joyboy's pet
Bon chan is Kin'emon's son
Oda no longer draws the manga
bonney and ace having a child
That Perospero is going to help kill Big Mom.
Dragon being former Admiral
What are your favorites? And here it is, the 500K survey! Took me far too long to make, as I underestimated the time needed to sort the answer and create this post. Like damn. I hope you enjoyed it. The anwers for the Survey Saga will be up next in some time.
Hey everyone! We are excited to share the results of the 2020 Wreddit Census. 8,837 users took the time to submit their answers and we have been able to find some interesting statistics. Thank you to those who took the time to submit your response. If you want to use the data yourself to draw your own findings or analysis, here is a link to the data as promised. There are some tabs on the bottom that look at specific factors that we found interesting.
1. Demographics
Gender
Gender
2020
2019
Change +/-
Percent Change
Male
90.9%
91.4%
-0.5%
0.54% decrease
Female
6.0%
6.3%
-0.3%
4.7% decrease
Non-Binary
2%
1.5%
+0.5%
33.3% increase
Prefer not to Say
0.7
0.6%
+0.1%
16.6% increase
Ethnicity
Ethnicity
2020
2019
Change +/-
White
78.6%
N/A
N/A
Hispanic/Latino
9.9%
N/A
N/A
Asian
7.4%
N/A
N/A
Black/African-American
4.7%
N/A
N/A
Middle Eastern/North African
1.3%
N/A
N/A
American Indian or Alaskan Native
1.2%
N/A
N/A
Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander
0.4%
N/A
N/A
Other
1.9%
N/A
N/A
Prefer not to say
1%
N/A
N/A
Age
Average Age
2020
2019
Change +/-
Age
28.9
N/A
N/A
The vast majority of users are in their late 20s and 30s. Residence
Country do you reside in?
Country
2020
2019
Change +/-
Percent Change
United States
59.9%
60.9%
-1.0%
1.64% decrease
UK
13.8%
13.2%
+0.6%
4.5% increase
Canada
7%
6.7%
+0.3%
4.47% increase
Australia
3.7%
4.2%
-0.5%
11.9% decrease
Note: all other countries under 2% Living Situation (for users 25 and older)
Household
2020
2019
Change +/-
Percent Change
Married and live with my spouse
28%
N/A
N/A
N/A
I live alone
20%
N/A
N/A
N/A
I am not married but I live with a significant other
18%
N/A
N/A
N/A
I live with my parents
16%
N/A
N/A
N/A
I live with Roommates
13%
N/A
N/A
N/A
I live in a multigenerational setting
5%
N/A
N/A
N/A
NOTE: We have a large number of teens and early 20 year olds on this sub. As a result, we felt it was best to eliminate everyone under the age of 25 for this measure as it would skew the data heavily due to the number of kids and college students. Income Level USD (for non-married and non-living with significant other) (for users 25 and older)
Income
2020
2019
Change +/-
Percent Change
Income
$49,850/year
N/A
N/A
N/A
NOTE: We have a large number of teens and early 20 year olds on this sub. As a result, we felt it was best to eliminate everyone under the age of 25 for this measure as it would skew the data heavily due to the number of kids and college students.
2. Watching Habits
How long have you watched wrestling?
Years
2020
2019
Change +/-
Percent Change
Years
17 years
N/A
N/A
N/A
What Cable TV/Streaming Services that you have?
Service
2020
2019
Change +/-
Percent Change
Netflix
72.3%
84.4%
-12.1
14.3% decrease
Amazon Prime
56.5%
57.4%
-0.9
1.5% decrease
Disney Plus
39.5%
N/A
N/A
N/A
Paid TV service
32.1%
45%
-12.9
28.6% decrease
Hulu
34.1%
41%
-6.9
16.8% decrease
HBO Max
13.8%
N/A
N/A
N/A
none
10%
N/A
N/A
N/A
Youtube TV
7.1%
N/A
N/A
N/A
Sling TV
3.8%
N/A
N/A
N/A
Hours of wrestling watched each week
Hours per Week
2020
2019
Change +/-
Percent Change
Hours
4.06
N/A
N/A
N/A
Do you regularly watch Monday Night Raw?
Response
2020
2019
Change +/-
Percent Change
No, I don't watch Raw regularly, but I do try to keep up with storylines and news
54.3%
49.3%
+5
10.1% increase
No. I don't watch or follow Raw
17.5%
8.9%
+8.6
96.6% increase
Yes I watch it weekly
16.1%
27.8%
-11.7
42.08% decrease
Yes I occasionally watch it
12%
13.9%
-1.9
13.6% decrease
How do you watch Raw (This question was ONLY asked of the respondents that said they watched Raw in some capacity)
Response
2020
2019
Change +/-
Percent Change
I watch it LIVE through my cable TV provider
33.9%
45.6%
-11.7
25.65% decrease
Through an unpaid stream or video website
22.9%
24.6%
-1.7
6.9% decrease
I watch it LATER through DVR or OnDemand with my cable TV provider
13.9%
N/A
N/A
N/A
I watch it LIVE through a stand alone paid streaming service (like Sling TV or Youtube TV)
12%
N/A
N/A
N/A
I watch it LATER on DVR or OnDemand through a stand alone paid streaming service (like Sling TV or Youtube TV)
8%
N/A
N/A
N/A
I only watch highlights, clips, or "streamables"
5.1%
N/A
N/A
N/A
I watch it some other way not listed here
3.5%
16.6%
-13.1%
N/A
I wait a month and watch it on the WWE Network
0.7%
0.3%
+0.4
133% increase
Note: More options were added this year, so the comparisons to 2019 may be flawed Do you regularly watch Smackdown?
Response
2020
2019
Change +/-
Percent Change
No, I don't watch Smackdown regularly, but I do try to keep up with storylines and news
53.1%
41.5%
+11.6
27.9% increase
No. I don't watch or follow Smackdown
18.6%
8.3%
+10.3
124.1% increase
Yes I watch it weekly
14.3%
31%
-16.7
53.9% decrease
Yes I occasionally watch it
14%
19.2%
-5.2
27.1% decrease
How do you watch Smackdown? (This question was ONLY asked of the respondents that said they watched Smackdown in some capacity)
Response
2020
2019
Change +/-
Percent Change
I watch it LIVE through my cable TV provider
35.3%
42.5%
-7.2
16.9% decrease
Through an unpaid stream or video website
22.2%
25.8%
-5.6
21.7% decrease
I watch it LATER through DVR or OnDemand with my cable TV provider
15.1%
N/A
N/A
N/A
I watch it LIVE through a stand alone paid streaming service (like Sling TV or Youtube TV)
8.8%
N/A
N/A
N/A
I watch it LATER on DVR or OnDemand through a stand alone paid streaming service (like Sling TV or Youtube TV)
7.8%
N/A
N/A
N/A
I only watch highlights, clips, or "streamables"
5.7%
N/A
N/A
N/A
I watch it some other way not listed here
4.3%
18.1
-13.7
75.7% decrease
I wait a month and watch it on the WWE Network
0.8%
0.3%
+0.5
166.6% increase
Note: More options were added this year, so the comparisons to 2019 may be flawed Do you regularly watch WWE Main Roster PPVs?
Response
2020
2019
Change +/-
Percent Change
Yes I regularly watch them live
27%
44%
-17
38.6% decrease
Yes I sometimes watch them live but sometimes I watch them later
23.7%
24.7%
-1
4% decrease
Yes but I watch them later, not live
12.8%
12.1%
+0.7
5.8% increase
No I do not watch them regularly but I try to keep up with storylines
25.3%
15%
+10.3
68.7% increase
No I do not watch them regularly
11.1%
4.2%
6.9
164.3% increase
How do you watch WWE Main Roster PPVs? (This question was ONLY asked of the respondents that said they watched Main Roster PPVs in some capacity)
Response
2020
2019
Change +/-
Percent Change
Through their personal WWE Network streaming service
62.2%
69%
-6.8
9.9% decrease
Through an unpaid stream
21.2%
15.5%
+5.7%
36.8% increase
Through a friend’s WWE Network streaming service
9.1%
8.6%
+0.5%
5.8% increase
I only watch highlights, clips, or "streamables"
2.2%
N/A
N/A
N/A
I watch is some other way not listed here
2%
N/A
N/A
N/A
I watch it through my cable provider
1.7%
N/A
N/A
N/A
I live in a country that doesn't have the WWE Network streaming accounts, but I have one through a VPN or other loophole
0.6%
N/A
N/A
N/A
Do you regularly watch the NXT weekly TV (non-UK)?
Response
2020
2019
Change +/-
Percent Change
No. I don't watch NXT regularly, but I do keep up with news and storylines
42.9%
35%
+7.9
22.6% increase
No. I don't watch or follow NXT
19%
25.1%
-6.1
24.3% decrease
Yes, but I watch it later. Not as it airs
18.7%
17.6%
+1.1
6.3% increase
Yes I occasionally watch it as it airs, but sometimes I watch it later
10.5%
13.2%
-2.7
20.5 decrease
Yes I regularly watch it every week as it airs
8.8%
9.2%
-0.4
4.3% decrease
How do you watch NXT weekly TV (This is ONLY asked of respondents that say they watched NXT Weekly TV in some capacity)
Response
2020
2019
Change +/-
Percent Change
I watch it through an unpaid stream or video website
22.3%
11.1%
+11.2
101% increase
I wait and watch it when it's available on the WWE network
20.1%
72%
-51.9
72.1% decrease
I watch it LIVE through my cable TV provider
19%
N/A
N/A
N/A
I watch it LATER through DVR or OnDemand with my cable TV provider
13.6%
N/A
N/A
N/A
I watch it LATER through a stand alone paid streaming service (like Sling TV or Youtube TV)
9.1%
N/A
N/A
N/A
I watch it LIVE through a stand alone paid streaming service (like Sling TV or Youtube TV)
8%
N/A
N/A
N/A
I only watch highlights, clips, or "streamables"
4.4%
N/A
N/A
N/A
I watch is some other way not listed here
3.6%
N/A
N/A
N/A
Do you regularly watch NXT UK?
Response
2020
2019
Change +/-
Percent Change
No. I don't watch or follow NXT UK
73.4%
60.6%
+12.8
21.1% increase
No. I don't watch NXT UK regularly, but I do keep up with news and storylines
21.6%
26.6%
+5.0
18.8% increase
Yes, but I watch it later. Not as it airs
3.2%
7.1%
*-3.9%
55% decrease
Yes I occasionally watch it as it airs, but sometimes I watch it later
1.2%
3.4%
-2.2
64.7% decrease
Yes I regularly watch it every week as it airs
0.7%
2.3%
-1.6
69.6% decrease
How do you watch NXT UK? (ONLY asked of people that say they watch NXT UK)
Response
2020
2019
Change +/-
Percent Change
watch using their WWE Networks streaming service
68.6%
78.8%
-10.2
12.9% decrease
use unpaid streaming
11.4%
8.8%
+2.6
29.5% increase
Through my cable/TV provider (some countries have NXT UK air on their cable package)
8%
1.1%
+6.9
627.3% increase
I only watch highlights, clips, or "streamables"
4.9%
N/A
N/A
N/A
use another friend’s WWE network account
4.2%
6.5%
-2.3
35.4% decrease
I watch it some other way not listed here
2.9%
3.6%
-0.7
19.4% decrease
Do you regularly watch NXT Takeovers?
Response
2020
2019
Change +/-
Percent Change
Yes, I regularly watch them live
28.8%
44.2%
-15.4
34.8% decrease
No I don’t watch them regularly but I keep up with storylines
20.2%
9.4%
+10.8
114.9% increase
Yes, I occasionally watch them live but sometimes I watch them later
19.1%
20.1%
-1.0
5% decrease
Yes, but I watch them later
16.6%
14.8%
+1.8
12.2% increase
No I don’t watch them regularly
15.2%
11.5%
+3.7
32.2% increase
When you watch NXT Takeovers, how do you watch them? (ONLY asked to people that said they watched NXT Takeover)
Response
2020
2019
Change +/-
Percent Change
Through their personal WWE Network streaming service
60%
68.7%
-8.7
12.7% decrease
Through an unpaid stream
23%
15.9%
+7.1
44.7% increase
Through a friend’s WWE Network streaming service
9.4%
9.1%
+0.3
3.3% increase
I watch is some other way not listed here
3.3%
3.3%
No Change
No Change
I only watch highlights, clips, or "streamables"
2.8%
N/A
N/A
N/A
I watch it through my cable provider
1.1%
1.0%
+0.1
10% increase
I live in a country that doesn't have the WWE Network streaming accounts, but I have one through a VPN or other loophole
0.5%
0.6%
-0.1
16.7% decrease
Do you regularly watch 205 Live?
Response
2020
2019
Change +/-
Percent Change
No. I don't watch or follow 205 Live
81.5%
67.7%
+13.8
20.4% increase
No. I don't watch 205 Live regularly, but I do keep up with news and storylines
14.9%
22.7%
-7.8
34.4% decrease
Yes, but I watch it later. Not as it airs
2.1%
4.9%
-2.8
57.1% decrease
Yes I occasionally watch it as it airs, but sometimes I watch it later
0.9%
3%
-2.1
70% decrease
Yes I regularly watch it every week as it airs
0.7%
1.7%
-1.0
58.8% decrease
When you watch 205 Live, how do you watch it? (ONLY asked for people that said they watched 205 Live)
Response
2020
2019
Change +/-
Percent Change
watch using their WWE Networks streaming service
73.7%
74.7%
-1.0
1.3% decrease
use unpaid streaming service
11.3%
10.7%
+0.6
5.6% increase
use another friend’s WWE network account
5.3%
5.5%
-0.2
3.6% decrease
I only watch highlights, clips, or "streamables"
5%
N/A
N/A
N/A
I watch is some other way not listed here
3.8%
4.9%
-1.1
22.4% decrease
Through my cable/TV provider (some countries have NXT UK air on their cable package)
0.9%
N/A
N/A
N/A
Do you regularly watch AEW Dynamite?
Response
2020
2019
Change +/-
Percent Change
Yes. I regularly watch it every week as it airs
28%
N/A
N/A
N/A
No. I don't watch them regularly, but I do keep up with storylines and news
27.6%
N/A
N/A
N/A
Yes. I occasionally watch them as they air, but sometimes I watch them later
16.2%
N/A
N/A
N/A
Yes. but I watch them later, not as they are airing.
16.2%
N/A
N/A
N/A
No I don't watch or follow AEW Dynamite
12%
N/A
N/A
N/A
When you watch AEW Dynamite, how do you usually watch it? (ONLY asked for people that said they watched Dynamite)
Response
2020
2019
Change +/-
Percent Change
I watch it LIVE through my TV provider
28.1%
N/A
N/A
N/A
I watch it through an unpaid stream
*25.6%
N/A
N/A
N/A
I watch it LIVE through a stand alone paid streaming service (Like AEW Plus or Sling TV)
20.4%
N/A
N/A
N/A
I watch it LATER via DVR or OnDemand through my TV provider
10.7%
N/A
N/A
N/A
I watch it LATER via DVR or OnDemand though a paid streaming service (Like AEW Plus or Sling TV)
8.3%
N/A
N/A
N/A
I watch it some other way not listed here
3.6%
N/A
N/A
N/A
I only watch highlights, clip, and "streamables"
3.3
N/A
N/A
N/A
Do you regularly watch AEW PPVs?
Response
2020
2019
Change +/-
Percent Change
Yes, I regularly watch them live
31.6%
N/A
N/A
N/A
No I don’t watch them regularly but I keep up with storylines
24.1%
N/A
N/A
N/A
Yes, but I watch them later
15.7%
N/A
N/A
N/A
No I don’t watch them regularly
14.6%
N/A
N/A
N/A
Yes, I occasionally watch them live but sometimes I watch them later
14%
N/A
N/A
N/A
When you watch AEW PPVs, how do you usually watch it? (ONLY asked for people that said they watched AEW PPVs)
Response
2020
2019
Change +/-
Percent Change
I watch through an unpaid stream
43.4%
N/A
N/A
N/A
I pay for the PPVs through BR Live
21.7%
N/A
N/A
N/A
I pay for the PPVs through FITE TV
17.3%
N/A
N/A
N/A
I pay for the PPVs through my cable provider
6.4%
N/A
N/A
N/A
I watch it some other way not listed here
6.4%
N/A
N/A
N/A
I only watch highlights, clips, and "streamables
4.8%
N/A
N/A
N/A
Do you regularly watch New Japan Pro Wrestling?
Response
2020
2019
Change +/-
Percent Change
No, I do not watch them regularly
39.1%
39.6%
-0.5
1.3% decrease
No, I don’t watch them regularly, but I keep up with storylines and news
27.7%
29.8%
-2.1
7% decrease
Yes, but I watch them later, not as they’re airing
15.9%
13.9%
+2.0
14.4% increase
Yes, I occasionally watch them live, but I usually watch them later
11.5%
11.8%
-0.3
2.5% decrease
Yes, I regularly watch NJPW shows live.
5.8%
4.9%
+0.9
18.4% increase
When you watch NJPW, how do you usually watch it (ONLY asked to the people that said they watched NJPW)
Response
2020
2019
Change +/-
Percent Change
Through their personally NJPWWorld subscription.
55.4%
48.1%
+7.3
15.2% increase
Through an unpaid stream
27.1%
27.1%
No Change
No Change
I only watch highlights, clips, or "Streamables"
5.8%
N/A
N/A
N/A
I use a friend's NJPW World Streaming Service subscription
5.7%
N/A
N/A
N/A
I watch it some other way not listed here.
3.2%
7.8%
-4.6
59% decrease
I watch LIVE shows through my cable provider IN JAPAN
0.3
N/A
N/A
N/A
Do you regularly watch Ring of Honor weekly TV?
Response
2020
2019
Change +/-
Percent Change
No. I don't watch or follow Ring of Honor
84.6%
74.2%
+10.4
14% increase
No. I don't watch Ring of Honor TV regularly, but I do keep up with storylines and news.
12.1%
20.5%
-8.4
41% decrease
I occasionally watch it
2.7%
4.1%
-1.4
34.1% decrease
I regularly watch it.
0.6%
1.2%
-0.6
50% decrease
How do you watch Ring of Honor? (ONLY asked to the people that said they regularly watch it)
Response
2020
2019
Change +/-
Percent Change
Through my TV provider
42.1%
33.7%
+8.4
24.9% increase
Through Fite.tv
16.8%
22.6%
-5.8
25.7% decrease
On the ROH website
13%
15.7%
-2.7
17.2% decrease
through an illegal stream
10.3%
12.4%
-2.1
16.9% decrease
Some other way not listed
6.5%
12.9%
-6.4
50% decrease
Through my cable TV provider's legitimate stream
5.8%
2.7%
+3.1
114.8% increase
I only watch highlights, clips, or "streamables"
5.5%
N/A
N/A
N/A
Do you regularly watch Impact Wrestling?
Response
2020
2019
Change +/-
Percent Change
No I do not regularly follow it
71.7%
68.6%
+3.1
4.5% increase
No I do not regualrly follow it, but I keep up with news and storylines.
20.4%
22.2%
-1.8
8.1% decrease
Yes I occasionally watch it
5.7%
6.8%
-1.1
16.2% decrease
Yes I watch it weekly.
2.3%
2.3%
no change
no change
How do you watch Impact Wrestling?
Response
2020
2019
Change +/-
Percent Change
I watch it on Twitch
37%
49.9%
-12.9
25.9% decrease
Through cable provider
29.2%
20.4%
+8.8
43.1% increase
through an illegal stream
14.1%
14.2%
-0.1
0.7% decrease
some other way listed
7.8%
13.4%
-5.6
41.8% decrease
I only watch highlights, clips or "Streamables"
6%
N/A
N/A
N/A
Through my cable provider's legitimate stream
5.8%
2%
+3.8
190% increase
Top TEN Most Watched Wrestling Promotions/Shows
Rank
Promotion/Show
2019 Rank
Rank Change +/-
% of users watching 2020
% of users watching 2019
#1
AEW Dynamite
N/A
N/A
64%
N/A
#2
NXT
#3
+1
46.1%
56%
#3
WWE Monday Night Raw
#2
-1
40.3%
61.8%
#4
WWE Smackdown Live
#1
-3
38.4%
66.4%
#5
New Japan Pro Wrestling
#4
-1
30.4%
32.3%
#6
AEW Dark
N/A
N/A
28.7%
N/A
#7
NWA Powerrrr
N/A
N/A
8.9%
N/A
#8
Impact
#8
no change
7.5%
8.6
#9
STARDOM
#12
+3
5.6%
4.4%
#10
Game Changer Wrestling
#29
+19
4.8%
0.6%
Note: 10.8% selected NONE
3. Online Habits
Is Wreddit your most frequent source of news related to wrestling?
85.6% YES
14.4% No
Where do you go for wrestling news? (asked of people that DON’T have Wreddit as their #1 source)
32.8% - A news site that focuses exclusively on wrestling news
23.5% - Twitter
17.2% - A paid subscriber newsletter
8.3% - Another user-based wrestling forum
3.8% - A more general sports-based news site
2.2% - Facebook
2% - Chat Applications like Discord or Skype
1.9% - /woo/ or other imageboard
1.6% - Instagram
If you didn’t use Wreddit for your news, where do you think you would go? (asked of people that DO have Wreddit as their #1 news source)
32% - Twitter
25.3% - a news site that focuses exclusively on wrestling
14.5% - I wouldn't go out of my way to look up wrestling news
7.1% - a paid subscriber newsletter
7% - Another user-based wrestling forum
3.6% - A more general sports-based news site
3.4% - Instagram
2.8% - Facebook
2.6% /woo/ or other imageboard
1.8% Chat applications like Discord or Skype
Are you a Subscriber to Dave Meltzer’s Wrestling Observer Newsletter?
Responses
2020
2019
Change +/-
No, I’m not interested in subscribing
65.4%
65.4%
No Change
No, but I might subscribe in the future
17.9%
20.1%
+2.2
No, but I have subscribed before
7.4%
6.6%
+0.8
Yes I’m a regular subscriber
4.9%
5.2%
-0.3
No, I don't know what that is
3.8%
1.9
+1.9
Yes, but I’m a fairly new subscriber
0.5%
0.8%
-0.3
News sites visited regularly
56% - NONE
17.1% - F4WOnline
16.6% PWInsider
9.6% Fightful
9.1% 411Mania
7.9% WrestlingInc
7% WrestleZone
6.8% Ringside News
6.6% ProWrestling Sheet
6% PWTorch
5% ProWrestling.Net
3.1% SEScoops
4. Subscription Services
Which Streaming subscription services do you pay for?
Streaming Service
2020
2019
Change +/-
Percent Change
WWE Network
46.3%
64%
-17.7
27.7% decrease
NONE
38.4%
26.3%
+12.1
46% increase
NJPWWorld
19.9%
19.4%
+0.5
2.6% increase
AEW Plus
5.9%
N/A
N/A
N/A
Fite Network
2.6%
2.1%
+0.5
23.8% increase
IWTV
2.4%
0.1%
+2.3
2300% increase
StardomWorld
2%
2.2%
-0.2
9% increase
Everything else is less than 2%. Which WWE Network programming do you watch regularly? (only asked of respondents with a WWE Network subscription)
Programming
2020
Live or recent PPVs
87%
Old PPVs
65%
24 documentary series
56%
NXT
54%
Undertaker: The Last Ride
40%
Old WCW PPVs
37%
Old ECW PPVs
34%
Table for 3
32%
WWE 365
32%
Steve Austin's Broken Skull Sessions
30%
RAW/SD episodes (classic or recent)
29%
Ridealong
21%
WWE Ruthless Aggression
21%
Chronicle
21%
WCW Nitro
21%
Monday Night War
20%
Edge & Christian Show
19%
Breaking Ground13% WWE Untold|12% WWE: The Day Of|12% NXT UK|10% The Best of WWE|9% World's Collide|8% UUDD Plays|7% WWE Story Time|7% WWE Photoshoot|7% In the last year, have you paid for a non-AEW PPV, iPPV, or other non-subscription based show?
Responses
2020
2019
Change +/-
NO
86.9%
N/A
N/A
YES
13.1%
N/A
N/A
Do you plan to purchase ANY PPV or iPPV non-subscription based show within the next year?
Responses
2020
2019
Change +/-
NO
58.3%
57.2%
+1.1
YES
41.7%
42.8%
-1.1
You said you have no plans to purchase an upcoming non-subscription based PPV. Do you have plans to take advantage of an unpaid stream of one? (This was ONLY asked to the people that said they have no interest in purchasing a PPV in the next year)
Responses
2020
2019
Change +/-
NO
50.8%
55.1%
-4.3
YES
49.2%
44.9%
+4.3
Do you listen to Podcasts?
Responses
2020
2019
Change +/-
YES
64.9%
67%
-2.1
NO
35.1%
33%
+2.1
Top 10 Podcasts
1- Talk is Jericho - 42%
2- AEW Unrestricted - 25.2%
3 - Cultaholic - 20.3%
4 - The Steve Austin Show - 19%
5 - The New Day: Feel the Power - 16.4%
6 - Edge and CHristian's Pod of Awesomeness - 16.2%
7 - Wrestling with Wregret - 16.2%
8 - Wrestling Observer Radio - 16.2%
9 - Jim Cornette Experience - 15.2%
10 - Byan and Vinny - 14.3%
Note: 12.5% of respondents pay for extra content on Patreon for at least one podcast
5. Spending Habits
How much do you spend on Merch in a year?
Average annual spend on merch: $51.84
Have you attended a wrestling show in the last 12 months?
35.2% Yes
64.8% No
Note: average number of shows attended per year is 3 (for those who have attended at least 1)
Since 1983, I have lived, worked and raised a family in a progressive, egalitarian, income-sharing intentional community (or commune) of 100 people in rural Virginia. AMA.
Hello Reddit! My name is Keenan Dakota, I have lived at Twin Oaks, an income-sharing, intentional community in rural Virginia for 36 years, since 1983. I grew up in northern Virginia, my parents worked in government. I went to George Mason University where I studied business management. I joined Twin Oaks when I was 23 because I lost faith in the underpinnings of capitalism and looking for a better model. I have stayed because over time capitalism hasn't looked any better, and its a great place to raise children. While at Twin Oaks, I raised two boys to adulthood, constructed several buildings, managed the building maintenance program, have managed some of the business lines at different times. Proof this is me. A younger photo of me at Twin Oaks.Here is a video interview of me about living at Twin Oaks.Photo of Twin Oaks members at the 50th anniversary. Some things that make life here different from the mainstream:
The labor system - all work is considered equal, whether you are earning income for the community or not. Cooking/cleaning counts the same as planning the annual budget. Also, you don't have to do the same job all week - your day can be a mix of indoor and outdoor work, you have freedom to arrange your day, and you can gain skills in a wide array of tasks and trades.
Non-gender binary, queer and trans people are very welcome at Twin Oaks. People introduce themselves with their pronouns and a significant number of our members go by they/them.
Verbal consent culture is very important here. It is not okay to touch anyone without asking.
Nudity and partial nudity is allowed in some parts of the farm, such as in the sauna, swimming hole, on the hiking trails, etc.
Our social norms prohibit using phones in common areas when other members are present, with the exception of a few cafe-style spaces.
Every day we provide a home-cooked, plant-based lunch and dinner with options for special diets including vegetarian, vegan, gluten-free, and no onions & garlic.
Raising kids here is easier. Some of the time that parents spend raising their children counts towards their labor quota. Many of the kids are home-schooled or "unschooled", and they spend more time outside than in front of a screen. The kids have no problem passing the state's annual standardized test to move onto the next grade level.
We have a shared clothing resource called Commie Clothes, which is like a free thrift store. Borrow something and then return it dirty, and it gets washed and re-hung up.
More about Twin Oaks: Twin Oaks is an intentional community in rural central Virginia, made up of around 90 adult members and 15 children. Since the community's beginning in 1967, our way of life has reflected our values of cooperation, sharing, nonviolence, equality, and ecology. We do not have a group religion; our beliefs are diverse. We do not have a central leader; we govern ourselves by a form of democracy with responsibility shared among various managers, planners, and committees. We are self-supporting economically, and partly self-sufficient. We are income-sharing. Each member works 42 hours a week in the community's business and domestic areas. Each member receives housing, food, healthcare, and personal spending money from the community. We have open-slots and are accepting applications for new members. All prospective new members must participate in a three-week visitor program. Applicants to join must leave for 30 days after their visit while the community decides on their application. We offer a $5 tour on Saturdays of the property, starting in March. More info here. Ask me anything! TL;DR: Opted out of the rat-race and retired at 23 to live in the woods with a bunch of hippies. EDIT: Thanks for all the questions! If you want some photos of the farm, you can check out our instagram. EDIT2: I'm answering new, original questions again today. Sort by new and scroll through the trolls to see more of my responses. EDIT3: We DO have food with onion & garlic! At meals, there is the regular food, PLUS alternative options for vegan/vegetarian/no gluten/no onions & garlic. EDIT4: Some of you have been asking if we are a cult. No, we are not. We don't have a central leader or common religion. Here are characteristics of cults, FYI. Edit: Yikes! Did I mention that I am 60? Reddit is not my native land. I don't understand the hostile, angry and seemingly deliberately obtuse comments on here. And Soooo many people! Anyway, to the angry crowd: Twin Oaks poses no threat to anyone, we are 100 people out of a country of 330 million? Twin Oaks reached its current maximum population about 25 years ago, so not growing fast, or at all. Members come and go from Twin Oaks. There are, my guess is, 800 ex-members of Twin Oaks, so we aren't holding on to everyone who joins—certainly, no one is held against their will. Twin Oaks is in rural Virginia, but we really aren't insular, isolated, gated or scared of the mainstream culture. We have scheduled tours of the whole property. Local government officials, like building inspectors, come to Twin Oaks with some frequency. People at Twin Oaks like to travel and manage to do so. I personally, know lots of people in the area, I am also a runner, so I leave the property probably every day. There are lots of news stories about Twin Oaks over the years. If you are worried about Twin Oaks, maybe you could go read what the mainstream (and alternative) media have to say. Except about equality Twin Oaks is not particularly dogmatic about anything. (I know some people at Twin Oaks will disagree with that statement.) Twin Oaks isn't really hypocritical about Capitalism, Socialism, or Communism, we just don't identify those concepts as something that we are trying to do. Twin Oaks is not trying to DO Communism, we are trying to live a good life with equally empowered citizens—which has led us to try to maintain economic parity among members. Communists also do that. In making decisions in the community I don't remember anyone trying to support or oppose an idea due to excess or insufficient Communism, Socialism, or Capitalism. In most practical senses those words aren't useful and don't mean anything. So, no need to hammer Twin Oaks for being insufficiently pure, or hypocritical. Twin Oaks is very similar to the Kibbutz in Israel. If anyone has concerns or questions about what would happen if places like Twin Oaks suddenly became much larger and more common, read about the history of the Kibbutz, which may have grown to possibly 1% of the population at their largest? There was and is no fight with Capitalism from the kibbutz—or with the State. My point is—not a threat. To the other people who think that the ideas of Twin Oaks are interesting, I want you to know it is possible to live at Twin Oaks (or places like Twin Oaks) and happily live ones entire life. There is no central, critical failing that makes the idea not work. And plenty of upside. But do lots of research first. Twin Oaks maintains a massive web site. (Anyway, it takes a long time to read.) But what I would like to see is more people starting more egalitarian, income-sharing communities. I think that there is a need for a community that is designed and built by families, and who also share income, and provide mutual support with labor and money. If you love this concept, maybe consider gathering together other people and starting your own. Ideologically speaking: -Ecology: the best response to ecological problems is for humans to use fewer resources. The easiest way to use fewer resources is to share resources. Living communally vastly cuts down on resource use without reducing quality of life. -Equality: ideologically speaking, most people accept the idea that all humans have equal rights, but most social structures operate in ways that are fundamentally unequal. If we truly believe in equality then we ought to be willing to put our bodies where our ideology is. In a truly equal world, the issues of sexism and racism and all other forms of discrimination would, essentially, not exist. -Democracy: Twin Oaks uses all manner of decision-making models and tools to try to include everyone and to keep people equally empowered. There is no useful word for this. We do use a majority vote sometimes, as a fallback. But sometimes we use consensus. We sometimes use sociocracy (dynamic governance). The word "Isocracy" (decision-making among equals), would be useful to describe Twin Oaks' decision-making model, but Lev in Australia has written an incomprehensible "definition" on Wikipedia, that he keeps changing back when someone corrects it. -Happiness: The overarching goal of all ideologies is to make people happy, right? I mean, isn't it? Capitalism is based upon the belief that motivation is crucial to human aspiration and success (and therefore more happiness). Under Capitalism, equality is a detriment because it hinders motivation (less fear of failure, or striving for success). Twin Oaks believes that humans are happier when they are equal, and equally empowered. So the place to start up the ladder of happiness is to first make everyone equal. Well, Twin Oaks is mainly still working on that first step. EDIT5: Some have asked about videos - here are links to documentaries about Twin Oaks by BBC, VICE and RT.
[SA] My experience with getting a name and gender change in Adelaide
If you haven't seen my first post about getting a diagnosis and HRT, you can find it here. Hey, I'm Emma (legally now!!!), a 29 year old trans woman, and as of today I've completed almost everything involved in the name and gender change process. Given it's a ton of work (and a fair expense), I thought I'd write up the steps I followed to make it easier for anyone else trying to do the same thing.
Prepare
Get a notebook or a text doc on your computer, or something like that. Write down every company you interact with, everyone who emails you, every place you have an account with, basically anything that has your deadname on it. Now, go through these and see how many you can just change without providing proof. A lot of companies just let you edit it (or will do so if you email them and ask). For the ones that don't, start noting down what ID they require. A lot will just be happy with a scan of your birth certificate, but some will want photo ID, a utility bill, or a certified copy of one of those. Certified copies are a bit of a pain, basically you need to make a photocopy (or scan and print) the document, then take the copy and original to someone "authorised" who will look over the two, then stamp and sign it to say they're identical. Companies vary on who they'll allow to certify a document, but basically everyone accepts a Justice of the Peace (JP), and most councils run a free JP service, which is what I used. Note that JPs can certify email bills, but in a slightly different way - they basically just get you to swear that it's a legitimate copy and sign some stuff, but as far as I can tell it works just fine.
Get a letter from a medical professional or psych
In South Australia you *do not* need to have had surgery to qualify for a gender change. I got mine on the back of ~4 months HRT, and I believe psychiatric help will also do. I asked my endocrinologist for a letter and she was happy to provide one.
The Birth Certificate
Okay, here's the big one! You'll need to fill out a Change of Sex or Gender Identity form (PDF, Website) and a Change of Name form (PDF, Website). Read the hell out of the websites and PDFs, they're long and confusing but you need to know this stuff! Print out the forms and fill them out. On the gender change form, you can choose from Male, Female, Non-binary, or Indeterminate/intersex/unspecifed. The cost if you do both at once is $321 (at time of writing). I got a bit worried by the combined discount because the forms both have individual payment sections, but what you do is just put the $321 on one form and write "see [first form's name] for full amount" on the other and they figure it out. This fee includes them sending you two (!!) nice new birth certificates. Both are just normal looking certificates, but one only has your new name and gender on it, and the other has a change list on the back, which includes your old ones (this is very useful for changing your name elsewhere). Another tip for the forms is that there's basically only one spot on the name form that asks for your new name, every other field wants your deadname. On the gender change form, it doesn't ask for your new name at all, they just figure it out because you're sending the forms in at the same time. If you have any questions about the form you can call the office of Consumer and Business Services on 131 882. The person I spoke to was really friendly and helpful, and got the answers I needed after a bit of searching. You're going to need a bunch of ID for these forms, and you'll also need a witness for the change of name, so it's time to head to a JP (again, use the free council service) and get that done. I was told by CBS that each form needed its own ID (so two copies of each document), so make sure you've got enough copies. I also recommend making a backup copy of your old birth certificate, because you're putting the original in an envelope and posting it off, and that's kinda dicey imo. I also really recommend using some combination of registered post/tracking/insurance, depending on your level of worry. Post the forms off along with your old birth certificate and ID, and wait anxiously. The CBS website estimates about a month's wait, but mine got done in about 10 days! You don't get any warning that it's done, just a letter from the SA Gov in the mail with the new birth certs in it. Take a moment to celebrate this, because for me opening that letter was the best feeling in the world. You earned it, well done!
Medicare
I'm going to tell you right now: do not bother trying to look up the process for this. It's the classic bureaucracy experience. Instead, just email [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]) with the subject line Change of Name (DeadSurname DeadFirstname) and a scan of the front and back of your new birth certificate that shows the changes. No other stuff, no forms (this is important), just that. They send you an autoreply that says it'll take months, but that's for new applications and stuff like that. I got a response in 9 days - a lady calling from a blocked caller ID (thanks Services Australia) to confirm a couple of details, and the change went through that afternoon. Obviously it takes a while to send out the new card, but in the meantime if your Medicare is linked to MyGov, you can download the Medicare app (confusingly called Express Plus Medicare on iOS) and it has a card display feature that people should accept. There's no charge for this process. Note that you may need to get prescriptions/blood test forms/etc re-issued in your new name, I'm not sure about this but I'm emailing my endo tonight.
Photo ID
I don't have a driver's license, so I can't comment on that, but here's the Proof of Age Card process, which I imagine is fairly similar? First, you'll need to fill out an application form (PDF, Website), then head into Services SA (don't do the online application, I'm guessing you'll want a new photo), and let them know you've changed your name and want to update your proof of age card. They'll give you a form to fill out that updates your details with the government department, and ask to see your birth certificate (bring the original with the change list). Fill out the form and take that, your birth cert, your old proof of age card, and your application form from earlier to the counter when you get called, they'll process it, take your photo, and a week or two later you should have your new card! The cost is $25. Here's me celebrating about it!
ATO
Second easiest of the lot! You just go to their website via MyGov, choose the option from the menus, enter in your details exactly as they appear on your birth cert (pay attention to the little diagram, it explains where to find everything), it does some verification magic, and you're done! No wait, no documents, no forms!
SA Water
The best one. Just log in to their website, hit My Settings, then Edit Details. Done!
Everything Else
I highly recommend getting some easy utilities done first - a lot of other places require a utility bill in your new name, and you'll be waiting for your next billing date for them. Once you have them and your list of what needs certified copies, head back to the JP and get them all done in a big batch. You'll probably need a lot of copies of your birth cert (front and back to show the change) as well. Head to the post office and buy some prepaid envelopes too. Company website searches can suck, I recommend googling [company name] change name. You'll usually find a PDF form with all the requirements or a web page that spells it out. Worst case, give them a ring and they can help you out. Also, if you have a will, don't forget to update that too! AGL: You need to call them. They may also need to re-create your online account to make it show the new name in there. NAB: Need to go in person to a branch with your birth cert (showing the change) AND photo ID in your new name. This is a recent policy change. ING: You need to fill out a form, provide certified copy of your birth cert (front and back) and post it all to them. Took about a week for them to call me to verbally confirm the change. They posted the cards out the same day, and provided SMS updates as well. Super: Each fund should have the details on their website, the two I dealt with required a posted form and certified ID. Amex: You call them, upload a scan of your birth cert (front and back) through the website while on the phone, and they sort it out. Optus: Posted form, birth certificate showing change (front and back). They don't say it needs to be certified but I did it anyway to be safe. The address listed on the form and the website are different. I tried the form's address and it worked fine, took 9 days. Council: I called them to ask, just needed to email them scans of my birth certificate (front and back), might vary from place to place House title, etc: Have not tried. Expensive and needs a conveyancer.
Hello! Here is the general sum of the 150k census survey! We had a total of 2697 participants - a 3% decrease from the 75k subscriber census. View the full results here!
(Please note that the creator of this census, me (picc), is a cis female who intended on the next two questions being gender vs sex identity and realized that the original wording of the questions were a bit confusing. I'm sorry for this and we will make sure that it's more clear in the future.)
Gender vs Sex Identity
Participants
Percent
Agender
21
0.79%
Cis-Gender
2455
92.36%
Genderfluid
1
0.04%
Non-Binary
6
0.23%
Pan-Gender
1
0.04%
Trans-Gender
89
3.35%
Questioning
67
2.52%
Other
18
0.68%
Sex identity
Participants
Percent
Binary
1
0.04%
Female
983
36.58%
Gender-non-conforming
1
0.04%
Genderfluid
1
0.04%
Genderqueer
11
0.41%
Male
1579
58.76%
Non-binary
72
2.68%
Non-binary man
1
0.04%
Other
2
0.07%
Pangender
1
0.04%
Questioning
32
1.19%
Transmasculine
2
0.07%
Transfeminine
1
0.04%
Sexual Orientation Demographics
Sexual Orientation
Participants
Percent
Asexual
54
2.01%
Bi and Ace
1
0.04%
Bicurious
2
0.07%
Bisexual
604
22.54%
Demisexual
2
0.07%
Don’t Identify
1
0.04%
Gay
849
31.68%
I don't know
6
0.22%
Lesbian
106
3.96%
Other
9
0.34%
Pan, lesbian-leaning
1
0.04%
Panromantic Ace
1
0.04%
Pansexual
72
2.69%
Queer
89
3.32%
Questioning
5
0.19%
Straight
878
32.76%
Current Relationship Status
Relationship Status
Participants
Percent
Cohabitating
152
5.65%
In a relationship
474
17.63%
Married/Domestic Partnership
166
6.18%
Single
1896
70.54%
Ethnicity Demographics
Ethnicity
Participants
Percent
Asian (includes East Asian, Southeast Asian, and origins in the Indian subcontinent)
392
14.59%
Askenazi Jewish
1
0.04%
Australian
1
0.04%
Black
107
3.98%
Hawaiian / Pacific Islander
5
0.19%
Hispanic/Latino/Latina (non-white)
140
5.21%
Hispanic/Latino/Latina (white)
187
6.96%
Indeginous Australian / Aboriginal Australian
5
0.19%
Indigenous American / Native American
14
0.52%
Indigenous Canadian
1
0.04%
Indo European
1
0.04%
Jewish
4
0.15%
Kurdish
1
0.04%
Middle Eastern
50
1.86%
Mixed / Biracial
142
5.28%
NZ Maori/Pakeha
1
0.04%
Other
4
0.15%
Romani
1
0.04%
White (Non-Hispanic/Latino/Latina)
1630
60.66%
Location Demographics
Location
Participants
Percent
Australia/New Zealand
165
6.14%
Canada
245
9.11%
Caribbean
4
0.15%
Central America
5
0.19%
Central Asia
1
0.04%
Central Europe
1
0.04%
East Asia
8
0.30%
Eastern Africa
1
0.04%
Eastern Europe
48
1.79%
Middle East
26
0.97%
North America
29
1.08%
Northern Africa
5
0.19%
Northern Europe
55
2.05%
Oceania
1
0.04%
Russia
5
0.19%
South America
90
3.35%
South Asia
20
0.74%
Southeastern Africa
2
0.07%
Southeastern Asia
85
3.16%
Southern Africa
4
0.15%
Southern Europe
33
1.23%
United Kingdom
260
9.67%
United States
1474
54.82%
Western Asia
1
0.04%
Western Europe
121
4.50%
Native English Speakers
Yes (2,112, 78.54%)
No (577, 21.46%)
The highest non-english native languages were: Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, German, French, Filipino, Polish, Arabic, Italian, and Swedish!
Education Demographics
Highest Level of Education
Participants
Percent
Attained High School degree or equivalent
213
7.93%
Completed Masters/Doctorate or equivalent
198
7.37%
Completed undergraduate or equivalent
879
32.74%
Still in High School or lower
305
11.36%
Still in college/got some college credit
1090
40.60%
Employment Demographics
Please note this census occurred as the COVID-19 shutdowns began, so this may not be completely reflective of the current status of Popheads.
Employment Status
Participants
Percent
Employed - Full Time
844
31.38%
Employed - Part Time
386
14.35%
Not Employed
333
12.38%
Self Employed
64
2.38%
Student (Not Employed)
1063
39.52%
Mental and Physical Health Statistics
Have struggled in the past year (1,818, 68%)
Have not struggled in the past year (857, 32%)
Have a physical disability (103, 3.8%)
Do not have a physical disability (2,579, 96.2%)
Food Preferences
There were so many! Here are the top 5:
Italian
Mexican
American
Japanese
Chinese
Note - this is the same as the last census!
How Long Have You Been a Part of the Community?
Popheads Status
Participants
Percent
1-2 years
869
32.32%
2+ years
1074
39.94%
3 to 6 months
170
6.32%
6 to 9 months
166
6.17%
9 months to 1 year
273
10.15%
Less than 3 months
137
5.09%
We're Overrun By Lurkers!
Lurkability
Participants
Percent
Lurk
1290
47.97%
Only comment
595
22.13%
Rarely comment and post
406
15.10%
Comment and post sometimes
331
12.31%
Comment and post often
67
2.49%
Other Subreddits We Use
Blackpink is in WHICH area? HipHopHeads, Indieheads, Music, Kpop, ListenToThis, LetsTalkMusic, EDM, WeAreTheMusicMakers, ElectronicMusic, and R&BHeads say hello
Popheads is the Best Music Sub, and we have the talent to prove it
85.2% of us (2277 respondents) primarily use Popheads, while 14.8% (395 respondents) do not 88.6%% of us use Popheads as our primary source of entertainment! We also primarily use Pitchfork, NPR, and Rolling Stone. We love making our own music! Just kidding. 82.6% (2,208) of our respondents don't make their own music.
Listening Hours and Methods
Hours spend listening to music per week
Hours of Listening
Participants
Percent
<5 hours
144
5.37%
6-10
424
15.81%
11-15
442
16.48%
16-20
430
16.03%
21-30
497
18.53%
31-40
318
11.86%
41-50
168
6.26%
>50 hours
259
9.66%
Percentage of that time listening to new music
New Music?
Participants
Percent
<20%
1719
64.09%
21-40%
755
28.15%
41-60%
156
5.82%
61-80%
40
1.49%
81-100%
12
0.45%
A little more than half of our participants listen to "pop" music more than 50% of the time. We use phones as our primary source of listening tool, followed by computer, radio, music player, and others. We buy our music primarily as digital downloads, but plenty of us (919, 46%) buy CDs, and the cool kids (760, 38.1%) buy vinyl. Spotify came out on top as the primary streaming service with 2,160 participants using it, followed by YouTube at 1,605 participants. (This and the above were multiple answer options). Apple Music came in with 549 participants, barely beating out Soundcloud who had 469!
Miscellaneous
We're suckers for Pitchfork! 73.8% of participants have friends they can comfortably discuss music with. We are also a part of other communities on Last.fm and Discord! Though, 875 people said they are not part of other communities.
Favorites
Top 5 TV Shows: The Good Place, Bojack Horseman, Breaking Bad, Parks and Recreation, and The Office Top 5 Movies: Parasite, Mean Girls, La La Land, Titanic, and Interstellar Top 5 Video Games: Animal Crossing, Minecraft, The Sims, Pokemon, and Skyrim Top 5 Musical Acts: Taylor Swift, Charli XCX, Lady Gaga, Lana Del Rey, and Lorde Top 5 Books: Harry Potter, 1984, The Great Gatsby, A Little Life, and Lord of the Rings Lots of you still don't read or have a favorite book!
NOTE: I'm pasting this guide from where I originally found it, over on Studentloandefaulters. It was originally pasted there from someone who found it after the original was deleted.
Student Loan Default: The Guide (reuploaded)
📷 The original guide that was recently deleted here:https://www.reddit.com/studentloandefaulters/comments/cg1fd7/student_loan_default_a_guide/ I take no credit for this post, just happened to have it saved in a document and thought I'd be doing an injustice by not sharing this information once I saw the original post was missing! All credit goes to the original author, and without further ado... Student Loan Default: A Guide I’ve been wanting to write this for a long time, and seeing that person be in $500,000 of debt and no one really helping him on studentloans, I felt it was time to summarize everything I’ve learned. While there is great information on this sub, it is not centralized. It requires some digging. I hope now to bring all of it to the surface. Definitions: Strategic Default: When a borrower realizes that he or she can spend less money by not paying a loan. The borrower waits out the statute of limitations and then either settles or waits the debt out. Shills: People who are paid to prevent the spread of student loan default information Statute of Limitations: The number of years your state requires before a debt can no longer be collected. Cosigner: The poor person who is just as legally required to pay your loans as you are Foreign Earned Income Tax Exclusion: A tax rule that states any US citizen can earn up to about $100,000 a year in another country and report their US taxes as 0. Fraudulent Transfer: When a party tries to move assets to someone else in order to avoid a lien on their property. Lien: Essentially when the government slaps a bill onto your property forcing you to pay off a debt before you can sell the property. Income Based Repayment (IBR): Federal loans can be paid with 15% of your discretionary income (money earned after taxes) instead of a higher, unpayable amount Aggregate Student Loan Limit: The total amount a student can take out before the federal government or a private lender stops authorizing new loans Wage Garnishment: When a court forces your employer to take out a certain percentage of your paycheck to pay back a debt Bank Levy: When the government or a court takes all of the money directly out of your bank account to pay a debt Private Loans: Loans that originate from anyone but the federal government. These loans have a statute of limitations and less power but higher interest rates. Federal Loans: These loans have no statute of limitations, the government can collect anything you earn to get these back, and they come with IBR which is manageable Sallie Mae: The worst private lender on the market. They only offer deferment for four short years. Forbearance: A period where you do not have to pay your student loans, but interest accrues. Deferment: A period where you do not have to pay your student loans, but interest does not accrue. Credit Score: A number that tells people how responsible of a borrower you are. Student Loan Tax Bomb: After you have paid for 10 - 25 years on your federal loans, you are forgiven the rest. That is considered income by the IRS. You then add this “income” to your regular income for the year and pay the tax. It can be over $10,000. Insolvency: When you are unable to pay your debts. This works well for defusing the student loan tax bomb. Public Service Loan Forgiveness: If you work for 10 years at a government job, you can get your entire federal student loan balance forgiven. In 2019, the feds are making it near impossible to collect. This could change. A note on cosigners before we begin: Look, your cosigner is probably going to be very mad at you. Prepare for your relationship to be strained. You need to try and get them on the same page as you, and I do offer a tactic here to at least shift all of the financial burden off of your cosigner below. If you decide to do any of these tactics without getting your cosigner off the hook, there could be more risk involved if you or your cosigners have a lot of assets. Strategy Student loan default is a strategy. And to have a good strategy, one must plan as much as possible. You have to know all of your options. While strategy is your overall game plan, tactics are the individual options you have to get your strategy accomplished. Below are the tactics that you can employ to beat the student loan companies. Tactics Paying Your Loans: [low risk] In the rare chance you have anywhere between $1,000 to $20,000 in federal student loans and you have completed your bachelor’s degree, you should probably just pay the damn loans. All you have to do is set up an auto debit and forget about it. It will be about 15% of your income. You really want to try and avoid consolidating if you can, because it will count against some of your IBR payments. You would also lose your grace period if you did this. At the end of 10 to 25 years, you will be forgiven all of the loan amount you did not pay. That forgiven amount is considered income by the IRS, so you will be put into a higher tax bracket. I would get an accountant when this comes. In your case, your tax bomb will be low enough where you could probably just pay it. If you want to really shake things up though, you are welcome to try either the Asset Creation Tactic or the Madlad Method below. Here is more information on Income Based Repayment: https://www.studentdebtrelief.us/repayment-plans/income-based-repayment-plan/ Default Private IBR Federal (Staying Put): [low risk] The standard strategy here on studentloandefaulters. As mentioned above, for the federal loans, it’s best to just IBR and automatically debit your bank account each month and forget about it. For the private loans, this is where the game begins. Your overall plan here is to default, wait out the statute of limitations in your home state, and either settle the debt for less than 30% or just hope they leave you alone and you don’t pay at all. From this moment on, whatever you would have paid for your private monthly bill, sock that money away. Once you go past 120 days of no payments, you are in default. This is where the phone calls come in. They will start to harass you. They will call your work, your cell phone, your cosigner, etc relentlessly. Most likely, they’ll start doing this before you get to default. As they call you, you can either just give them the cold shoulder or start immediately acting like you do not own the debt. Never admit that you own the debt. Tell them you think they are crazy and have the wrong person. Inform your cosigner to do the same. Once your loans are sold to a collection agency, wait until they call you and ask for verification of the debt. If they do not provide it, you won. Chances are, they will be able to verify it, so just make sure you never admit to the debt on the phone or make a payment. If you make a payment, you’ll reset the statute of limitations. Do not give them five dollars, two dollars, a penny. If they do sue you, show up for court. Get a lawyer if you can afford it. You have to show up to court, or they win automatically. Even if you don’t have a lawyer in court, you need to make them verify the debt. You could still lose here. If you do lose in court, go to my tactic of “The Cat and Mouse Game.” They are playing a numbers game, and if you are harder to sue than John Smith down the street, they may prey on him or her instead of you. Now, there are four states in the United States that do not have wage garnishment: Pennsylvania, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Texas. You could move there, and if you have barely any assets, you are considered judgement proof. This means you’re not worth the time to be sued, because you have nothing to take and cannot be garnished. Moving is hard, though, so that’s a personal decision. Also, from what I understand, if you do move to these states, you can switch your statute of limitations over to their states which may be less time until you cannot be sued anymore. If you do lose and just want to stop here, you could get your bank levied and you could be slapped with up to a 25% wage garnishment until paid in full Clarification: a lot of people do not ever get garnished, and bank levies are rare (they are non-existent on federal loans). Do not let this freak you out!. I repeat this is super rare and not likely to happen. Anyways, you have options at this point. If it does happen, try another tactic like leave the country or cat and mouse below. Default Private Default Federal: [medium risk] Some of the wilder people have attempted to default on both federal and private loans in order to do a cash settlement. The same strategy above in Default Private IBR Federal applies, but realize that the US government could just step in and do an administrative garnish on you eventually. If you were living some sort of cash existence, you could potentially avoid them and then write them a money order and settle for 30% or something. This way, you avoid the tax bomb and would probably pay a lot less interest overall. If you do this and it works, I would love to hear about it. Cat and Mouse: [medium risk] So, you want to avoid getting sued or you lost a judgement? You don’t have to sit back and take it. u/nowaysalliemae has successfully avoided being sued by essentially going on the run. You see, to be sued successfully, they need to know where you work. If you get sued, move to another state, and switch jobs, they have to do the entire process over again! This means find you, verify the debt, sue you, etc. You can essentially do this until your statute of limitations runs out. And then, you dispute the debt on your credit score. They take it off at that point, and you just saved a lot of money. I decided to put this as medium risk, because moving around a lot would require some luck. Especially since you would need to work wherever you go, there are a lot of moving parts here. I think it is totally doable, and if you are an adventurous personality type, it could be a lot of fun. This only works for the private student loan side, because the US government has a lot more power. You would still IBR your federal loans on this tactic. For more information, go through nowaysalliemae's post history. Leave the Country: [medium risk] What if you want to avoid all of this altogether? Do you want a reset button on your life? You can just leave the country and start over. Seriously. Your credit score does not follow you across countries. The federal government cannot garnish your paycheck if you work internationally. You are not a criminal doing this. Furthermore, there is something called the Foreign Earned Income Tax Exclusion. Since you will still IBR your federal loans on this plan, as long as you make less than $100,000 in another country, your US income is zero. This means you just got a free education while you make money in another country. Once you pay zero for 25 years, you will have to defuse your student tax bomb. Tactic Below. Private companies do not stand a chance here. There are countries in the commonwealth such as Australia and Canada that are more willing to take you in if you meet certain requirements. You could teach English at a bunch of places. You could apply for residency at these places or be a perpetual tourist. A perpetual tourist is someone who essentially moves to a new country, goes to a neighboring country for a weekend, and then goes back to that new country they are trying to start a new life in*. This in no means you have to go back to the U.S. Ever. For example, you want to live in Panama forever, every 90 days, you take a weekend trip to Nicaragua. You come back to Panama after the weekend is over and get another 90 day pass. Rinse and repeat. This gives you another 90 days in your country of choice. If you make money on the internet, this strategy would work pretty well. You can just be a perpetual tourist or marry someone in another country and start a new life. This will not be a good fit for everyone, but there’s something exciting about this. If you are young, single, and restless, this could be the adventure of a lifetime. Here's more info on being a perpetual traveler and the FEIE: https://www.escapeartist.com/blog/perpetual-traveler-us-tax-code/ Suspend Payment Without More Debt: [low risk] So recently, it has been brought to my attention that there is a community college, Luna Community College (in Las Vegas, NM), that has tuition so low you could go half time all year for about 684 dollars. They have a small amount of associate's degrees. If you just want to stop paying without taking any more loans, this would be the way to do it. You could do this for many years. Luna Community College's tuition matrix: https://luna.edu/tuition_matrix Convert Private Loans to Federal: [low risk] From this point on, these are my special tactics I’ve been thinking about. They might work really well for some people. So, you have a bunch of federal loans and a good amount of private loans. You don’t want to fight debt collectors or move around. Try this. This plan only works if you have a bachelor’s degree though. Anyways, there is a special loan offered by the US Federal Government called the Graduate Plus Loan. This loan is incredible, because there is no aggregate student loan limit. In other words, you can borrow as much money as you want here. Even a million dollars no questions asked. All you need is no delinquency or default on your credit report. If you do have these things, you can get a cosigner in on the plan. They won’t ever be responsible anyways because you will defuse the tax bomb at the end. This works to your advantage, because you could go back to school at the graduate level, get a diploma mill master’s degree online, use your room and board payment to start paying off your private loans ASAP. Just make sure you are doing whatever your school considers half time enrollment in order to avoid student loan payments while doing this. Once you’ve gone to school long enough and converted all of your private loans to grad plus loans, you could just go on an IBR plan. This will at least make your life manageable. You would have to defuse your student tax bomb once this is over. Tactic below. Convert Federal Loans to Private: [medium risk] So, what if you wanted to go the opposite way? Maybe you want to convert all of your federal loans to private ones, default, and then leave the country? Hey, maybe there are reasons you want to hurry up the settlement process. You could essentially do the same strategy as above, but instead just borrow from Sallie Mae, Wells Fargo, etc until all of your federal loans are paid off. Then, either cat and mouse or leave the country. I don’t think a lot of people would find a use for this, but hey who knows? Asset Creation Method: [high risk] What if you wanted to not just pay off your loans but get ahead in life? Maybe you feel like using your student loan debt to your advantage. Thanks to the work done by u/BinaryAlgorithm, you could really come out on top here. Remember those Grad Plus loans we were talking about? Well, there’s nothing stopping you from continually borrowing all year on these loans, investing the room and board, and acting as if you do not have the debt in the first place. While I had originally said that rental property does not count as income, I cannot find any documentation proving this. You can still invest this money however you want, and you just defuse the tax bomb at the end (if anyone can find that documentation, please let me know). I did find that rental properties offer a lot of ways to reduce your adjusted gross income (management fees, advertising, etc), and these could reduce your income closer to zero. We’re not done here. Moreover, you could get a job that qualifies for Public Student Loan Forgiveness, enjoy your investments, and then pay for the 10 years. Be sure to convert all loans to federal before starting this tactic. I only put this as high risk, because the whole plan falls apart if Grad Plus loans get capped. Will they? Probably not, because those are the loans doctors and lawyers take out to go to their professional schools. It would take an act of congress to change the way the law stands now, but still, you should know that. This plan spans decades, so a lot can change. Also, having this many installment loans may lower your credit score over a multitude of years, but based on what everyone has found out here, it's not by much. For more information, go to this subreddit's search bar and type in "aggregate" and go look at BinaryAlgorithm's two posts on the subject. Defusing the Student Tax Bomb: [low risk] So lucky for you, I talked to an actual lawyer and an actual IRS agent about this. This is completely legal and doable. Okay, so you were a good person and paid your IBR for 25-30 years. What now? Well, you’re about to be hit hard with a tax bomb. All of that money that is now forgiven counts as income on your taxes. This could mean a bill in the tens of thousands if you combined this with any of the other methods here—or just borrowed a lot to begin with. Luckily for us, there is something called insolvency. This means you are unable to pay your debts, and there is a really simple formula for whether or not you are insolvent. As long as you have more liabilities than assets at the time of student loan forgiveness, you are considered insolvent. In other words, right before you are about to be forgiven, like year 24 out of 25, you would take out a loan on something. All you would need to do is buy a house, buy a car, or buy something with a huge price tag. As long as your liabilities are way higher than your assets (like aim for 100K or something more), you are considered insolvent and you don’t have to pay any of the tax bomb. Boom. The IRS agent said this is fine. The lawyer said this is fine. I cannot believe this is fine. Where could you get the money to borrow for a house? Check Asset Creation method above. You could always sell the asset after the tax bomb is dealt with. For more information on defusing the student loan tax bomb: https://lawyerist.com/defusing-student-loan-interest-tax-bomb/ Getting Your Cosigner Off the Hook: So 90% of us have cosigners based on some statistic I read. These people are going to pissed at you, because they get harassed. If you have a lot of time to plan your strategy out, you can simply convert all of your private loans to federal ones. They are no longer responsible. The plan is above. Check out “Convert Private Loans to Federal.” Furthermore, if you are attempting to go the default route with private loans, you could potentially get your cosigner off the hook by refinancing your student loans without the cosigner. After you refinance, you could just default then. You would need good credit and meet certain requirements for this. Also, if you plan on defaulting, you might want to get your cosigner to transfer their assets to their spouse or someone trustworthy. Even though liens are rare, this could give you some peace of mind. As long as about 3-5 years go by, this is no longer considered a fraudulent transfer. Your state will have certain rules about this. If you are from Florida, apparently houses are untouchable there. You will need a lawyer to plan the asset transfer. At the same time, you may not be able to get your cosigner off the hook. Make peace with that. Student loans are brutal, so all you can really do is educate yourself and your cosigner and hope you come out on top. Madlad Method: [high risk] Now, here comes my personal plan. This is what I’m doing, because I want to live a life on my terms and not really work for anyone my entire life. I’m also not a normal person, so this will probably appear crazy to some or most of you. So at this point, if you understand all of the methods before you, you are a powerful player in the student loan circus. You can do anything from fight the man to maliciously comply and bankrupt the system while becoming upper-middle class. I don’t really care for any of that. I want to go to a tropical paradise and make music for 20 years, so here is my interpretation of everything. I have some federal loans and private loans. I net about 25K a year through the Grad Plus loans, and I work about 4 hours a week in the online classroom. I take that federal loan money, and I sock away a few hundred every month to save up for my private loan settlement in about five years. Since I save 300 every month, I’ll have about 18K in 5 years when I go into default. I will settle ASAP. At the same time, I will continue to go to diploma mill universities, get master's degree after master’s degree, and move to a Latin American country where the cost of living is even lower. This way, my 25K a year puts me in the upper class of that country. I can live where I want and really do whatever I damn well please for as long as the Grad Plus loans are around. As an added bonus, I will already be starting a new life in another country where I can make connections and maybe even get married. I studied linguistics, so I know how to teach English. I can do that if I want a source of income anywhere. So there is my plan, and honestly, one day we might get someone in office who just wipes out all of this debt anyways. If that’s the case, I can just play the waiting game until all of this is over. Here are the rules on adverse credit history and Grad Plus loans: https://studentaid.ed.gov/sa/sites/default/files/plus-adverse-credit.pdf Final Thoughts: Defaulting on student loans is not immoral or a sin. It is a business decision. Everyone else gets bailouts, why should student borrowers be any different? You’re going to have to ignore the people who tell you why they think you should be a good little slave and pay your loans. Those people are not your friends. Those people are not on your side. Some of the best advice I ever received in life was you have to do what’s best for you. Also, if you have anything you would like to add to this or would like to challenge, please let me know. I want this to be as accurate as possible. I will be looking at this perpetually to make sure there are no errors. Take care. Good luck. You can do this.
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